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		<title>Comment on Snow, and then a thaw by Ray Norris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw your wonderful photos and thought of this short piece that I saw recently,

&#039;They Worked From Dawn Till Dusk
Once the hands and backs of farm labours knew interminable days of endless work.
It is these bodies that have made this country. People who worked all day from sunrise to sunset, in all elements&#039;

Well Done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw your wonderful photos and thought of this short piece that I saw recently,</p>
<p>&#8216;They Worked From Dawn Till Dusk<br />
Once the hands and backs of farm labours knew interminable days of endless work.<br />
It is these bodies that have made this country. People who worked all day from sunrise to sunset, in all elements&#8217;</p>
<p>Well Done!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pig club progress by Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.the-oak-tree.co.uk/blog/2012/02/pig-club-progress/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be fair I can see the comedy value - as Colin does look slightly porcine in one of the shots - I&#039;ve seen people looking like their dogs but also once worked for Defra and many farmers did often resemble some of their livestock. Also for nearly 3 years I had thought Steve was vegetarian! Plus the video made me hungry....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be fair I can see the comedy value &#8211; as Colin does look slightly porcine in one of the shots &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen people looking like their dogs but also once worked for Defra and many farmers did often resemble some of their livestock. Also for nearly 3 years I had thought Steve was vegetarian! Plus the video made me hungry&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tesco on the Golden Key (pub site)? by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.the-oak-tree.co.uk/blog/2011/10/tesco-on-the-golden-key-pub-site/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
I see there is a new planning application for the Golden Key.  Nothing has changed in it apart from the addition of 2 windows down the side elevation.  I raised numerous concerns and objections about the original application and the impact on the local area, businesses, traffic etc.  Also the supporting documents were substantially flawed in their approach and conclusions and severely biased (noise assessment, traffic assessment, increased usage assessment etc), in my view to make the planning application look favourable.
To make matters worse I see that the only way to raise objections about the application is in writing at the council office using a ball point pen.  I mean talk about deliberately trying to make it difficult for people to air their concerns.  Outrageous.  I thought these people were paid for by us and were supposed to be working for us!
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I see there is a new planning application for the Golden Key.  Nothing has changed in it apart from the addition of 2 windows down the side elevation.  I raised numerous concerns and objections about the original application and the impact on the local area, businesses, traffic etc.  Also the supporting documents were substantially flawed in their approach and conclusions and severely biased (noise assessment, traffic assessment, increased usage assessment etc), in my view to make the planning application look favourable.<br />
To make matters worse I see that the only way to raise objections about the application is in writing at the council office using a ball point pen.  I mean talk about deliberately trying to make it difficult for people to air their concerns.  Outrageous.  I thought these people were paid for by us and were supposed to be working for us!<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tree Planting Day by A great start to 2012! &#124; Local Food Suffolk</title>
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		<dc:creator>A great start to 2012! &#124; Local Food Suffolk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a possible chicken co-op, and more plans to extend the forest garden, which we began doing at a tree-planting day last weekend.  The CSA is expanding, with some lovely new members coming into the fold this week [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Solstice thoughts by Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.the-oak-tree.co.uk/blog/2011/12/solstice-thoughts/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A time for reflection indeed! I have been pondering your thoughts Joanne throughout January. Enjoying our veg from the Oak Tree every week is a constant reminder (as if I needed it) of how much the farm has added to my life. (And I&#039;m sure I speak for Kirsty as well!) My main worry about the human race in general is our continuing disconnection from reality, as technology, &#039;work&#039; and our economic system become more and more what we think of as the real world. I say &#039;work&#039; for money as distinct  from useful work. Many of us do very worthwhile jobs in many senses but to a greater or lesser extent almost everyone&#039;s occupation is dependent on the economic system and the established society and state we have become used to. Work in the broader sense is to do with supporting ourselves, our families and our communities as residents of a truly wonderful planet!
I think that if the pressures of the ever growing human population and our ever growing consumption of energy and resources eventually result in an erosion or breakdown of our artificial systems, we need to be resilient in ourselves and in our communities if we are to continue to live fulfilled lives. The Transition Movement is a part of this, but for me The Oak Tree Farm embodies this so completely I can now hardly imagine life without it! I am in awe of what Joanne has done and hope one day to have the courage and the competence to be able to follow in her footsteps in some way. The key, I believe, is in working together and enjoying the good things that come from reconnecting with our planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A time for reflection indeed! I have been pondering your thoughts Joanne throughout January. Enjoying our veg from the Oak Tree every week is a constant reminder (as if I needed it) of how much the farm has added to my life. (And I&#8217;m sure I speak for Kirsty as well!) My main worry about the human race in general is our continuing disconnection from reality, as technology, &#8216;work&#8217; and our economic system become more and more what we think of as the real world. I say &#8216;work&#8217; for money as distinct  from useful work. Many of us do very worthwhile jobs in many senses but to a greater or lesser extent almost everyone&#8217;s occupation is dependent on the economic system and the established society and state we have become used to. Work in the broader sense is to do with supporting ourselves, our families and our communities as residents of a truly wonderful planet!<br />
I think that if the pressures of the ever growing human population and our ever growing consumption of energy and resources eventually result in an erosion or breakdown of our artificial systems, we need to be resilient in ourselves and in our communities if we are to continue to live fulfilled lives. The Transition Movement is a part of this, but for me The Oak Tree Farm embodies this so completely I can now hardly imagine life without it! I am in awe of what Joanne has done and hope one day to have the courage and the competence to be able to follow in her footsteps in some way. The key, I believe, is in working together and enjoying the good things that come from reconnecting with our planet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Solstice thoughts by Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joanne, 

thanks for what is a very thought provoking and true post about the realities of todays situation. 

TBH I find myself in the opposite position, hence why I haven&#039;t unfortunately been able to participate as much in either this wonderful venture or Transition - I am regularly working 12-16 hour plus days, sometimes in until the early hours to get what needs to be done achieved. What i&#039;ve noticed is not so much that &quot;work is drying up&quot; but *interesting or *fun** things are becoming harder to find - for instance few people can afford a AV engineer (which is my actual trade) or a paid DJ and the reason late night dance events are being stopped is really because the NHS can&#039;t cope with the drugs/booze addiction they cause when a economic depression and politicial turmoil is stretching them to the limit as it is - but there is still a fair bit of &quot;boring&quot; work like construction, cable monkeying and accountancy..

However this also is partly by choice - but also out of necessity to be a decent human being 

I&#039;m not particularly religious (a lapsed Catholic)) but do believe a human has a duty to contribute something positive - in my youth I was a hedonist whom despite my parents efforts to give me a good start dropped out of uni in a haze of pills, powders and potions (and still like a drink and party today) and now am quite rightly being kept in line by wider society but also reasonably well rewarded - I might not take home a investment bankers salary but its still higher than many people my age get especially those who don&#039;t have a full University education.

There is the risk I might keel over and land up in Papworth, but I suspect that cleaning up my lifestyle slightly and still not owning a car means my giblets are in better shape than many men of my age - and TBH better I that if I keel over I do that from good honest hard work than merely from partying or mindless testosterone-fuelled competitive &quot;sports&quot;  or spending my time and money on cars and getting into a RTC from treating the highway as a playground/racetrack (which do for a lot of men younger than me),plus at least where I work if I do go over its often in a place full of nurses and where I know the phones to call &quot;nines&quot; and the backup systems are as resilient as possible as I built them ;). Most importantly, I don&#039;t have a wife or kids to leave behind so hard work is what society rightly expects from me as compensation for my misspent youth. In comparison to all you lot in the CSA I am merely a overgrown chav what got lucky, and am lucky to be able to work hard and not to be in hollesley bay or St Clements or bottom of the Orwell TBH after the life I have led! 

I did treat myself to a few bits of IT and audio visual kit this year but these are the first upgrades I&#039;ve had since the rave days 10 years ago - interestingly my new digital based DJ mixing equipment and modest (but still powerful) computer and amp/speakers use way less electric than the old style kit. 

At least they make up for a increasingly solitary lifestyle- but TBH I&#039;ve already prepared myself for this - as I said on Transition forum if I end up a old man alone in the half flooded remains of Chantry with only stray cats and dogs for company, sat in semi darkness (due to conserving battery power) listening to war reports from the BBC Eastern Counties Emergency Broadcasting Services, I&#039;m quite happy to do this. 

My grandparents generation in Malaya after all had to do the similar as well as deal with actual invasion of their homelands (though the weather was better).

Unfortunately especially living currently without a car, IP4 and IP2 are further away than they seem - there is currently no way I could sensibly give both my day job and the CSA the effort they deserve, and though I accept its not exactly &quot;right on&quot;, to me as an engineer it doesnt&#039; seem that rational riding halfway across town to get food when there is a ASDA within walking distance.

I don&#039;t like the place or its corporate ethos much myself but I do begrudingly admire the discreet but firm security culture - Ipswich as a whole is way safer than London but you still do need to have your wits about you especially if running a business - I did a bit of research about that area only to find the local shops folded due to being hit by both the residents of IP2 preferring to use Tescos as Copdock (despite this being the other end of the estate) and worse, targeting every shop in that precinct for shoplifting and even violent robbery, including the murder of the local pub landlady! 

Even then Asdas staff have on occasions had to deal with violence against them such as the scrote who tried to make off from a self service machine and roughed up a female shop assistant.

That said, the area has been successfully cleaned up by both the coppers and whatever security Asda deploy to the point that all I saw today were two fat dogs being separated by security which were squaring up to each other but having considerable difficuty barking at each other without wheezing and panting, this made me laugh but I hope their vets put them both on a diet! (perhaps we should re-introduce dog carts?). Unfortunately it seems that some humans (like dogs!) may not cope so well at being &quot;free range&quot; and need a bit of &quot;firm but fair&quot; guidance, for instance seeing all the white and blue flashing LED strings down my sreet instinctively made me think back to 5 years ago and how the cops dealt with the murder of the 5 sex workers, quickly catching the offender *and* cleaning up the towns nightlife was again impressive to me and I don&#039;t always see eye to eye with the cops on certain matters!

I don&#039;t fear the future (though its in fact harder to face up to than the relatively &quot;quick and clean&quot; exit we were faced with in the 80s when the Soviets and Yanks were dead set on blowing a good chunk of the world into radioactive dust) but don&#039;t see it as being anything *other* than hard work. I think I am still lucky as even in depressions there is always demand for folk who can keep the lights on and the phones working (Richard is in a similar position I wold expect) but am glad I am a bit older and can live with slightly less hedonism, it must be much harder for younger folk!

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joanne, </p>
<p>thanks for what is a very thought provoking and true post about the realities of todays situation. </p>
<p>TBH I find myself in the opposite position, hence why I haven&#8217;t unfortunately been able to participate as much in either this wonderful venture or Transition &#8211; I am regularly working 12-16 hour plus days, sometimes in until the early hours to get what needs to be done achieved. What i&#8217;ve noticed is not so much that &#8220;work is drying up&#8221; but *interesting or *fun** things are becoming harder to find &#8211; for instance few people can afford a AV engineer (which is my actual trade) or a paid DJ and the reason late night dance events are being stopped is really because the NHS can&#8217;t cope with the drugs/booze addiction they cause when a economic depression and politicial turmoil is stretching them to the limit as it is &#8211; but there is still a fair bit of &#8220;boring&#8221; work like construction, cable monkeying and accountancy..</p>
<p>However this also is partly by choice &#8211; but also out of necessity to be a decent human being </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not particularly religious (a lapsed Catholic)) but do believe a human has a duty to contribute something positive &#8211; in my youth I was a hedonist whom despite my parents efforts to give me a good start dropped out of uni in a haze of pills, powders and potions (and still like a drink and party today) and now am quite rightly being kept in line by wider society but also reasonably well rewarded &#8211; I might not take home a investment bankers salary but its still higher than many people my age get especially those who don&#8217;t have a full University education.</p>
<p>There is the risk I might keel over and land up in Papworth, but I suspect that cleaning up my lifestyle slightly and still not owning a car means my giblets are in better shape than many men of my age &#8211; and TBH better I that if I keel over I do that from good honest hard work than merely from partying or mindless testosterone-fuelled competitive &#8220;sports&#8221;  or spending my time and money on cars and getting into a RTC from treating the highway as a playground/racetrack (which do for a lot of men younger than me),plus at least where I work if I do go over its often in a place full of nurses and where I know the phones to call &#8220;nines&#8221; and the backup systems are as resilient as possible as I built them <img src='http://www.the-oak-tree.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Most importantly, I don&#8217;t have a wife or kids to leave behind so hard work is what society rightly expects from me as compensation for my misspent youth. In comparison to all you lot in the CSA I am merely a overgrown chav what got lucky, and am lucky to be able to work hard and not to be in hollesley bay or St Clements or bottom of the Orwell TBH after the life I have led! </p>
<p>I did treat myself to a few bits of IT and audio visual kit this year but these are the first upgrades I&#8217;ve had since the rave days 10 years ago &#8211; interestingly my new digital based DJ mixing equipment and modest (but still powerful) computer and amp/speakers use way less electric than the old style kit. </p>
<p>At least they make up for a increasingly solitary lifestyle- but TBH I&#8217;ve already prepared myself for this &#8211; as I said on Transition forum if I end up a old man alone in the half flooded remains of Chantry with only stray cats and dogs for company, sat in semi darkness (due to conserving battery power) listening to war reports from the BBC Eastern Counties Emergency Broadcasting Services, I&#8217;m quite happy to do this. </p>
<p>My grandparents generation in Malaya after all had to do the similar as well as deal with actual invasion of their homelands (though the weather was better).</p>
<p>Unfortunately especially living currently without a car, IP4 and IP2 are further away than they seem &#8211; there is currently no way I could sensibly give both my day job and the CSA the effort they deserve, and though I accept its not exactly &#8220;right on&#8221;, to me as an engineer it doesnt&#8217; seem that rational riding halfway across town to get food when there is a ASDA within walking distance.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the place or its corporate ethos much myself but I do begrudingly admire the discreet but firm security culture &#8211; Ipswich as a whole is way safer than London but you still do need to have your wits about you especially if running a business &#8211; I did a bit of research about that area only to find the local shops folded due to being hit by both the residents of IP2 preferring to use Tescos as Copdock (despite this being the other end of the estate) and worse, targeting every shop in that precinct for shoplifting and even violent robbery, including the murder of the local pub landlady! </p>
<p>Even then Asdas staff have on occasions had to deal with violence against them such as the scrote who tried to make off from a self service machine and roughed up a female shop assistant.</p>
<p>That said, the area has been successfully cleaned up by both the coppers and whatever security Asda deploy to the point that all I saw today were two fat dogs being separated by security which were squaring up to each other but having considerable difficuty barking at each other without wheezing and panting, this made me laugh but I hope their vets put them both on a diet! (perhaps we should re-introduce dog carts?). Unfortunately it seems that some humans (like dogs!) may not cope so well at being &#8220;free range&#8221; and need a bit of &#8220;firm but fair&#8221; guidance, for instance seeing all the white and blue flashing LED strings down my sreet instinctively made me think back to 5 years ago and how the cops dealt with the murder of the 5 sex workers, quickly catching the offender *and* cleaning up the towns nightlife was again impressive to me and I don&#8217;t always see eye to eye with the cops on certain matters!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t fear the future (though its in fact harder to face up to than the relatively &#8220;quick and clean&#8221; exit we were faced with in the 80s when the Soviets and Yanks were dead set on blowing a good chunk of the world into radioactive dust) but don&#8217;t see it as being anything *other* than hard work. I think I am still lucky as even in depressions there is always demand for folk who can keep the lights on and the phones working (Richard is in a similar position I wold expect) but am glad I am a bit older and can live with slightly less hedonism, it must be much harder for younger folk!</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tesco on the Golden Key (pub site)? by joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an update on the campaign against the Tesco plan here on my local councillor&#039;s blog:

http://alasdairross.blogspot.com/2011/10/not-another-supermarket.html

I was there - but I am hidden at the back - see the little sign being held up high - that was me, honest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an update on the campaign against the Tesco plan here on my local councillor&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://alasdairross.blogspot.com/2011/10/not-another-supermarket.html" rel="nofollow">http://alasdairross.blogspot.com/2011/10/not-another-supermarket.html</a></p>
<p>I was there &#8211; but I am hidden at the back &#8211; see the little sign being held up high &#8211; that was me, honest!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tesco on the Golden Key (pub site)? by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Alasdair,

I have heard that Tesco has made a planning application for a store on the Golden Key pub site on the Woodbridge Road.

I am strongly opposed to this application for many reasons and know that many residents of this area feel the same. 

The area has several excellent shops, including a greengrocer, a butcher and a baker, that offer quality produce at a fair price. These shops are an integral part of the local community, providing jobs for local people as well as a sense of community.  We need to encourage local businesses to develop if we are to cultivate a thriving community in this sought after area of Ipswich.

The local Co-operative stores on Cauldwell Hall Road and Colchester Road offer an excellent selection, including many local products, and are open daily until 8 and 10 respectively. I really feel that these shops serve the local residents extremely well, and that therefore there is absolutely no need for a Tesco store.

If the planning application were to be denied I believe it would confirm to residents that creating a truly sustainable community for the residents of Ipswich and the surrounding area is a priority for the council. An integral part of this vision is a supply of fresh local food at a reasonable price, while a Tesco store would mean yet more undercutting of prices, which in the end simply exploits producers, the environment and ultimately our communities.

I implore you to do all you can to ensure that the council says no to Tesco in this area of Ipswich.

Yours sincerely,

Tom Wilmot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Alasdair,</p>
<p>I have heard that Tesco has made a planning application for a store on the Golden Key pub site on the Woodbridge Road.</p>
<p>I am strongly opposed to this application for many reasons and know that many residents of this area feel the same. </p>
<p>The area has several excellent shops, including a greengrocer, a butcher and a baker, that offer quality produce at a fair price. These shops are an integral part of the local community, providing jobs for local people as well as a sense of community.  We need to encourage local businesses to develop if we are to cultivate a thriving community in this sought after area of Ipswich.</p>
<p>The local Co-operative stores on Cauldwell Hall Road and Colchester Road offer an excellent selection, including many local products, and are open daily until 8 and 10 respectively. I really feel that these shops serve the local residents extremely well, and that therefore there is absolutely no need for a Tesco store.</p>
<p>If the planning application were to be denied I believe it would confirm to residents that creating a truly sustainable community for the residents of Ipswich and the surrounding area is a priority for the council. An integral part of this vision is a supply of fresh local food at a reasonable price, while a Tesco store would mean yet more undercutting of prices, which in the end simply exploits producers, the environment and ultimately our communities.</p>
<p>I implore you to do all you can to ensure that the council says no to Tesco in this area of Ipswich.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely,</p>
<p>Tom Wilmot</p>
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		<dc:creator>kazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 09:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cant wait to hear about it lady :D</description>
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		<title>Comment on Oak Tree Harvest Festival 2011 by lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great pictures Richard, really capturing the spirit of a lovely convivial evening, topped by the rainbow blessing of more bounty to come. Joanne may have been doing the dispensing but who (or what) was making the camera shake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great pictures Richard, really capturing the spirit of a lovely convivial evening, topped by the rainbow blessing of more bounty to come. Joanne may have been doing the dispensing but who (or what) was making the camera shake?</p>
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